Your Comments, page 3

"Hello Victor, thank you for your website. I found it very informative and will share it with people who need to know about these false teachings. I have always been wary of this kind of teaching which always appeared to me to be unbiblical. Sadly, some folks are drawn to 'signs and wonders' which appeal to the carnal side of human nature whereas self-discipline requires more commitment and real dependence on God and reliance on Jesus' sacrifice for us. I also looked at your site relating to abortion. I abhor abortion. How can it be right even in a human sense to kill unborn babies. I used to think ok I would never have an abortion when God showed me it was wrong, but I didn't have the right to stop someone else doing it, not my business. Then God showed me (a number of years ago) Proverbs Chapter 24, Verse 11 & 12. After that I couldn't say it was none of my business and I set about telling anyone who would listen. Thanks again for your website."
--Lynn Metcalfe, United Kingdom
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"Hey Stupid, Only you are the wolves among the sheep. Get lost" --Viju Vinod Kanna

Mr. Stephens Comments: Since you wish to ignore the facts, you can always call me a name.

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"Thank you for your research and honesty on this movement. I am sharing this link on my webblog."
--Dr. Dwight Easler, Pastor: Corinth Baptist Church, Gaffney, South Carolina
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"Thank you for the time and effort you have put into building this site and exposing some of the wolves. I have done this time and time again on different forums I am on and have been flamed mercilously. How can people be such fools. Be Blessed." --Jim Wright
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"'Wow! I hope you stick my picture and name and teachings on your website, I know that I'd be in good company with all my fellow pentecostal servants of GOD." --Joseph Krautheim

Mr. Stephens' Comment: Servants of Satan is a more accurate description of the individuals you reference. You are obviously carousing in your own duplicity.

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"Good job brother on the Tithing teaching. Everyone in the Body of Christ needs to hear it. God Bless."
--George Price
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"Help please, My wife and I have been in the Word of Faith movement for over 25 years. I just recently figured out that we have been led seriously astray. I want us to extract ourselves from this movement (and the rest of my adult family). I don’t know how to get her out of it. She is a steadfast defender of it. She really believes that it is the truth. Logic is of no use with her. She gets extremely upset just to talk about it. I believe if I continue to try and convince her that we have been duped/mis-led, it will mean the end of my marriage. I deeply love my wife. Ending my marriage is not an option. I find it harder and harder to participate in errant religious teaching. Any advice?" --Gary
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"In searching for the truth, I believe that God led me to this site. Nothing but the truth will do for me, because I am a lover of the truth. As the Holy Spirit leads me into all truths, I am so amazed that the spirit of discernment is not working in so many so-called christians today. Looking forward to reading your site. God Bless!" --Carolyn Garrett, Bronx, New York
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"Dear Mr. Stephens, As a recently "renewed" Christian, I am deeply appreciative of your article. I have perused the religious channels over the last few months and have felt, in my heart and gut, that some of the preaching I was hearing didn't seem right. I am very uncomfortable when I hear supposed experts in the Bible talk about deserving to be rich, them and us, on the backs of people that trust them. And using scripture falsely to make their points is obvious to anyone who listens to them. Other than your article I have not seen much regarding this extremely important topic. Thank you for having the courage to come forward to try and expose the fraud. Some people must be so desperate to get out of debt and/or to become rich that they are ignoring the warning signs right in front of their eyes. I am thankful to God that he put it in my heart and mind not to fall prey to this.
Sincerely", --Maria Ponte
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"Greetings, I was perusing your website and found it interesting and quite truthful. I can certainly appreciate what you are doing in regards to the status of the church today. Please keep up the good work and follow the Lord faithfully.
Blessings," --Bob Wise, Forgotton Word Ministries, Augusta, Illinois
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"I am so glad that I am not the only one seeing these false teachers among us!!! Please keep up the good work of warning to others!!" --Roy Rodriguez, Friona, Texas
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"Victor,

Ran across your website while doing research on the Word-Faith Movement. I'm doing a series of articles on what I believe are heretical and cultic groups within and outside of the church that I sincerely believe share many teachings and practices in common, and form the basis for the Apostasy that is being revealed to the discerning Christian today. Paul said there would be a falling away before the tribulation and I was curious as to how far along we are on that path of deception. I think many people will be surprised as I am myself finding out how entrenched are the intrusions of these false teachers in the 21st century church. I thank you for the time that you put into your research and your website and concur wholeheartedly with you about our tendencies today to be so "tolerant" of all kinds of aberrant teachings invading and even taking over our pulpits. We do need to call heresy by it's proper name. Thanks again for your diligence and compassion." --Dave Hewitt, Little Egg Harbor, New Jersey
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"Take quotes out of context to fit your message is an old trick, you seem to employ on you website! I would be careful if I was you, we are to judge by their fruits aren't we? What are your fruits?"
--Elizabeth Fitzgerald, Australia
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"Hi, You have a great web-site – I really appreciate what you have done to compile all the heretical and greedy word of faith teachers in their own words. Excellent work! Thanks again for a great site. It needs to be translated into Arabic and Farsi, for the TBN goof-balls are beaming their heretical teachings to the middle east. Sincerely in Christ," --Ken Temple, Lawrenceville, Georgia.
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"I felt the bottom line you support is giving out of love and to those in need. Would that be true? Do you feel it is the responsibility of a churched believer to contribute to the support the church to which they belong? I ended up with the impression that you might not be a part of a church and therefore would not subscribe to that kind of accountability. For me, it is easier to cheerfully give a tithe and to give an offering according to how I am prompted by the Spirit, than to concern myself with all the reasons why or why not." --Marilyn GS, Portland, Oregon

Mr. Stephens' Comment: I do not subscribe to a tithing system on account that God's Word does not command Christians to tithe. However, I do believe that Christian should donate to the upkeep of a church facility. Furthermore, ministry workers are deserving of compensation. This should be accomplished through freewill offerings.

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"I was enriched by your articles supported by the Word of God. I pray to God that He raises people like you to expose these wolves who ravages the sheep. Continue doing the good works."
--Samuel Smiles Abraham, India
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"My dear sister led me to the Lord and then introduced me to a small independant charismatic church. I loved this church. The worship was amazing. I felt the presence of God there everytime I stepped through the doors. Everyone there were so filled with the joy of the Lord. Every week people came to share a testimony of what God was doing in their lives. Then something happened that changed that church forever. The pastor invited a man by the name of John Avanzini to hold a seminar on "finances". Well to make a long story short...once this false teacher was allowed to preach on the pulpit everything changed. It wasn't long there was a big fundraiser to build a bigger and better sanctuary. The focus of the churched completely changed. Slowly but surely the church with the heart for evangelism changed to the church with a heart for money and the things of the world. I was married at the time and this new deceptive doctrine caused my wife and I to leave the church. Some of my family remain in that church to this day. My recent return to God has opened my eyes to some of these deceptive teachings and it has given me a desire to get back to the basics with God. I don't want to settle for counterfeit, I want the real move of God's Spirit in my life. Sadly some of my closest family members are still caught up into the Word of Faith movement. They follow after (as did I) some of the very teachers that you are exposing on your website. I am so happy that I found your website. Your exposition on the Word of Faith movement is very well done. I have added this your website to my favorite places list and will use it in my arsenal to expose the lies of these wolves in sheep's clothing. Thank you for taking the time to compile this information. Please pray that God will expose these men for the heretics that they are...and please pray for me as I go to battle to expose Satan's lies in the lives of my family members who have been deceived by them." --Tom Meiser, Allegan, Michigan
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"Thank you so much for all the information you posted on your web site. My question is this... I hate not being in church. But the churches I have been visiting all teach tithing. So should I go to the one that I feel is closest to the truth as far as praise and worship is concerned? And just give according to how the Holy Spirit has lead me and not participate in the tithing portion of the service? Or not go to a building as far as church is concerned. I have asked the lord to allow me to grow up in him and not just be a child of God but a son ( I believe this denotes maturity not relating to gender). Its a challenging place to not go with the status quo. I am tired of the religious and searching for the spiritual. I thank you for your time your study of the truth and your consideration in responding to this e mail. In search of truth," --Gina, Cincinnati, Ohio
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"Im always looking for other fundamental Christians who want to warn others of Latter Rain. In my three year research I have discovered that Latter Rain is occultic as well as the Purpose Driven Life. Though seemingly plausible, deeper investigation reveals the occultic origin of both of these belief systems. Both are connected to the Satanic agenda, "New Beginnings" that has permeated the charismatic and once sound fundamental churches. Transformation, paradigm shift, glory cloud, fresh word, and many other phrases identify this doctrine of demons. Many pastors are falling like dominoes for this deception. Tricia Tillen from Britain has done exstensive research into this occultic influx that involves unsuspecting God loving people who are blindly following their "prophetic " leaders. The agenda on the horizon is to identify those who adhere only to the Logos as opposed the Rhema. (written word of God vs voice of God) Those who do not go with "the spirit" will be removed. (tribulation!) I ask everyone to read all that Tricia Tillin has on the internet regarding this dangerous New Age move that is bringing in the anti christ." -- Jan Hawkins, New Orleans, La.
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"Very well written and very true. Many members of my family are involved in this false doctrine of the Word-Faith movement and are into babbling and seek to to be "slain in the spirit." God Bless your Ministry." --Rick Campos, Whittier, California
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"I ran across your blog (website) and added it to mine at www.faithpreacher.blogspot.com.
Great stuff, I shall pass it around." --John Edwards, former WOF minister, Birmingham, Alabama
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"Dear Victor,

I really enjoyed your site! My husband & I also used to watch these preachers and even went to RHEMA. We have no fellowship with any of our former friends--they are controlling & fearful and label us as people who don't know the word, when their brand of Christianity boils down to using the word as incantations & witchcraft. Thanks for sharing what God is showing you!

I have always wrestled with the scriptures on women. I want to know, as a woman who is called to prophesy, in what setting am I allowed according to your understanding of scripture? I have never had a desire to have authority over a man, but only to clarify doctrinal points, etc. These scriptures come to mind:

Acts 2:17 Your sons and daughters will prophesy . . .

I Cor 11:4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head . . . .

Thanks for your help!" --Alice Scheidt, Butler, Pennsylvania
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"Victor:

The Word-Faith movement is extremely dangerous to the believer, as well as those searching for the real Jesus Christ. I praise the Lord for your courage and concern for the spiritual welfare of the body of Christ. God bless", --Bud Press, Director, Christian Research Service, Jude 3
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"Hi Vic,

Greetings from South Africa. I don't know if its fair for you to go "heresy hunting" as it were. Now let leap to my defense, I admit that it is vital to expose those who stray from orthodoxy, as the bible clearly states that we are to hold fast to "sound doctrine" and "rightly devide the word of truth," but my problem lies in the fact that I don't believe there is a single pastor that has never strayed away from orthodoxy - shouldn't you also name them as well? For instance, more that 90% of our churches out there still preach tithing, and make people feel guilty and admonish them that they will receive due and deserved punishment from God for not tithing. But biblically, me and you know that you can not justify tithing under the new covenant - it just doesn't hold water or stand to biblical scrutiny. Shouldn't you name these as well?" --Sipho Masondo, Business Correspondent, The Herald/Weekend Post, South Africa

Mr. Stephens' Comment: I agree with you in that no pastor's doctrine has been error free. On account that we are human, everyone is capable of making a mistake. However, those who have been truly called by God will humble themselves and submit to correction when they err. There are numerous false teachers outside and within the church structure. It is beyond my means to name every false teacher. The false teachers that I unveil along with their corresponding erroneous doctrines is solely based on God's leading. In reference to tithing, you are correct. God never commanded Christians to tithe money or anything else. Yet, most churches today teach this doctrinal error. It is my personal opinion that most pastors who teach tithing are false teachers. They teach tithing for financial gain and/or they are biased because they don't have enough faith that people will give enough to support them and the cost of building maintenance.

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"The word refers to you as the unlearned, hope that you can be teachable enough to receive truth from Jesus!" --Pat Hunt, Cincinnati, Ohio
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"Hi,

You are doing a good job shepherding the flock of Christ and revealing the deception in this age."
--Arthur Jason, EndTimeDeception.ning.com
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"I have been ignorant of this Word Faith movement and have been doing daily prayer readings from Copelands' book 'From Faith to Faith.' I will not get any more Copeland material and cancel their magazine. Thank you for your website." --William, Queensland, Brisbane, Australia
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"Dear Mr. Stephens:

GOD bless you and your family! You are an answer to my prayers. My wife has gotten heavily steeped into the Word of faith movement. I went to a local church with her today (Living Word Christian Center) and the pastor said we are robbing GOD if we don't tithe. This coming week we have Dr. Creflo Dollar coming to deliver a message. My wife is angry with me for questioning the health and wealth preaching of Mr. Dollar and Kenneth Copeland. I just printed your article on tithing and plan to read it. If you know of any other resources on this topic please let me know. GOD bless you brother!"
--John Commers, Minneapolis, MN
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