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"Dear Victor Stephens,
I am very grateful for the article (almost book!) you've written on tithing. My heart leaped for joy at the beginning of it because I knew it was confirming what the Lord revealed to me, though, for sure, not with the thoroughness you have presented. My understanding came as I was one day reading the book of Galatians. The Spirit of God just dropped into my spirit the understanding of being set free from the law, and the knowing that tithing was a part of the law. I have written about it from the perspective of NT giving definitely encouraged but being on the basis of what one proposes in his heart to give, what one is able to afford, and being able to give cheerfully. (I'm sure you know the Scriptures regarding these.) Of course this has not been received except for one that I am sure of, but no one will ever be able to convince me contrary to what I know the Lord revealed. I believe the adherence to tithing is what has prospered the harlot church. If God's people could get a hold of this and stop giving to Satan's harlot church system, it would begin to crumble! Anyway, I am very encouraged by your article and intend to send the link to all I know. I have also read about the word-faith people and know this to be true also. The rest of your site is yet to be read but will be.It is a beautiful site and I loved the adorable little sheep and wolf icon! May you be showered with all the blessings He has made available to us!"
--Louise Switzer
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"I thank Jesus for shedding His glorious light on these concerns.. He has answered some questions for me today on here.. May Jesus continue to use you, to set the Captives free.. IN faith and Christ Jesus, a fellow servant.."
--Kim
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"Victor,
I just came upon your article. Thanks for posting it on the web and leaving it there for current access. Your site came up when I searched for "Paula White false teacher" in my search engine. She is included in a list of "prominent Christian leaders" participating in a celebration marking the 400th anniversary of the first permanent English settlement in North America. (I don't know if the event took place last weekend or will occur this weekend. The sponsoring church website at rockchurch.org is not working on account of bandwidth problems. Perhaps everyone is trying to make seed faith donations at once). The thing that bothers me about that entire endeavor is the opportunity for extreme abuse on behalf of the speakers. To be able to misuse the Bible and history at the same time is especially dangerous. The historical themes of God's leading and the subsequent blessing that has taken place can lead right into false statments about prosperity theology. That in turn leads to a great opportunity to play on the emotion of the historical event to convince peoplel to give large amounts of money to the speakers.You could almost re-title your article "Who's Who on TBN." Through the years I have watched TBN from time to time. The worst part of it is not the fake eylashes and gaudy wigs but the false theology.The Crouches should really remove the word "trinity" from the network. It is more closely related to toxic than trinity. Some people may come to know the Lord through that programming, by God's grace. However, many struggling Christians suffer as they try to implement various false doctrines in their lives. Their are a couple of programs worth watching, but most of it is immersed in false teaching. Thanks for using your time, talents and background to expose these errors. Be encouraged in the Lord today. In the care of His grace",
--Stephen Hall, Wisconsin
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"To me I think those Teachers have Good intension as not all they teach is cult, Hope it is a good idea to pray that GOD may lead them in whatever word that come forth from their mouth."
--Emmanuel, Hiroshima, Japan

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"I have read the articles on your website and am so glad to see someone who declares the TRUTH! I, too, have come out of a Word of Faith church and it was very painful. God bless you and your efforts. A fellow Berean",
--Paula Huskey, Forrest City, Arkansas
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"Hi Victor,
I just finished reading your article on the Word/faith people. Although I was pretty much "raised" on the teachings of these false apostles, I have not subscribed to their teachings for years. But I did not realize the depth of their blasphemy! In reading your well documented writing I have learned a lot. I see that their poison has even invaded others who are opposed to and teach against the word/faith movement. I guess it's just that deception is everywhere and without the Word and the Spirit to guide us we are in big trouble!! I greatly appreciate all that has gone into what you've presented on your site. I know how much time research takes, plus presenting it in an organized and clear way for those it is meant to benefit. Many, many thanks!! Blessings,"
--Louise Switzer
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"Hello,
I have not really had much time to go through your writings but I think you should spend more time studying the scriptures as you have said you do. The account in Genesis about God rejecting Cain's offering because it was possibly scraps was wrong. God told me sin lies your door. When you study the bible in context you will find that the reference was that he was to bring the right type of sacrifice - a blood offering. God had an animal killed to provide a covering for their parents (Adam & Eve). That knowledge had been passed onto the children who ought to have done the right thing. I'll stop there for now. For many folks who have experienced God when faced with hopeless situations and had those situations turned around by faith filled messages from some of these Pastors who you are quick to malign, they know better."
--Paul Papa, United Kingdom

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"'Excellent write up. The holy spirit indeed bears witness. I had been preaching this for months and I am amazed that what you wrote is exactly what the spirit of God had been ministering to me. My wife and I rebutted our pastor barely 3 weeks ago and ever since, we have seen a bad side of the pastor and his wife. We are basically looked upon as outcasts doomed for hell. Please continue to feed us with these scriptually sound exposures of these false teachers."
--Unknown
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"Superb analysis...lacking in nothing! Truly inspired by the Holy Spirit. A sad state of affairs for "the Church" as we know it in
these last days; despite Christ's warning that these things would come before his return! Well done thou good and faithful servant. May Christ bless you for your courage and daring to espouse the TRUTH! A brother in Christ,"
--Shawn T. Carson
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"I read with interest your website and the issues there especially the one on Word-Faith teachers and tithing.I would like to pass some comments as well as ask you some questions.You've well-argued points about the issues you've raised about Word-Faith teachers.Where then would one find the truth that you've and be nurtured in it?Do you have church establishments throughout the world? My second question is:Would there be anything wrong if one were to personally chose to give a tithe whether or not this was taught in church?What about the people who have been saved and have come to know Jesus under the WF teachers?And those who have been healed through being prayed for by the WF teachers?And the several criminals in prisons that I've seen give their lives to Jesus after being preached to by the WF teachers?I'm from Africa where the scourge of AIDS and poverty is unparalleled.Wouldn't the people actual be needing the messages from the WF teachers?How do you get poor people like us to believe that poverty is not a curse from God?The other point is that the WF teachers are not the only ones who claim to have the true gospel.The Protestants,the Catholics,the Pentecostals,the Christian Science all claim to be the ones having the true gospel and usually have biblical scriptures to support their claim.But my question would still be:What about the millions who have been saved (some have even passed on)under the WF teachers' doctrine,because certainly most of these teachers teach about Jesus Christ of the Bible,our Lord, Saviour and Son of God.Surely these people would need to be shephereded by a church which has the truth then.And my question comes back:Is there a church like that anywhere in the world where these people would go to when they depart from the WF teachers? Thank you."
--Hlanganani Tutu, Africa
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"'Thank you for exposing this evil deception. Keep going and don't stop. Satan may be loud but God will have the last say."
--Rick Van Brunt
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"Thanks very much for your article on Word of Faith Movement. I'm sharing it with my family, colleagues, and friends. We never knew what you exposed to us!"
--T.P. Moeketsi, KwaMhlanga, South Africa
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"Dear brother in the Lord, I stumbled upon your website last week while visiting a site that I frequent regularly (www.apostasywatch.com) I wanted to tell you that it's good to see someone besides myself digging into the scriptures, particularly the Old Testament to see exactly what the Word of God says concerning things in the law, particularly tithes. I just could not believe that all these years I had heard erroneous teaching. Needless to say, I don't listen to any of them anymore, especially anyone who's on TBN. The thing that blows my mind is how can someone be so lazy as to just accept what someone thinks is right and not challenge it, and then teach it to millions like it's correct? (i.e. the "little gods doctrine") Do any of these guys know what a Lexicon is? I let my wife read some of the quotes in your article on Word of Faith and she asked me, "Who's the guy that wrote this article? What's his story?" So the next day, I visited your site again and looked at the bio you had on there. When I saw that you attended Creflo Dollar's church for 4 years, I told my wife, "this guy was in the middle of these things (Word of Faith/Prosperity message) just like I was. I did attend one service at World Changers, but my home church from 1988 - 2002 was/is pastored by Leroy Thompson, Sr. He's the one that started this whole "money cometh" thing (pull the lever and all that stuff). I'm glad I'm free from that bondage. I've looked back at some of his quotes and he gleened alot of material from the infamous Rev. Ike. (the very one he warned us about in the early '80's) Keep up the good work and don't let anyone discourage you. There's no greater feeling than when you've uncovered the TRUTH of God's word for yourself."
--Michael Hernandez, Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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"Hello Victor, I just want to tell you that I really enjoyed reading your article on Tithing. It has been a subject of uncertainty for me for quite some time now. Thanks to you I feel as though I have much more in depth knowledge on this issue. It is obvious the time that you have devoted to your research."
--Carole Rapuana, Baton Rouge, Louisana
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"Brother Victor, I loved the website info on the word of faith teachers. I am covering this as part of a series on cults in our church this week, and your info is irrefutable--especially the audio clips!Keep up the good Work."
--Errol Hale, Grace Bible Church, Moorpark, California
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"Hello Bro. Stephens, I came across your site in my desire to learn the truth about the word of faith movement. I recently (actually today) left a word of faith church, my first and only time being associated with those guys. I can really relate with your article about the word of faith movement. Your article really confirmed other research I have done and God is truly good. I am
going to share your site with a Pastor friend of mine and we are going to sit down and go through it. He has trouble with the word of faith movement also. My God continue to bless you and your family."
--Kerry & Kourtney Coleman, Orlando, Florida
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"I just came across your website after a Google search that I titled "Word of Faith Movement; Spiritual or Carnal". I haven't had the chance to read the article in its entirety (as I can't print the PDF file without some of the words being cut off & I don't have computer access at my residence as of yet. What I can say is of the parts that I have read, I definitely agree with what you're saying.There are really so many things that I could type concerning the Word Faith Movement, but I don't think either of us has that kind of time right now. I can say that I, too, was a part of a church that was Word Faith based dressed in Holiness/Pentecostalism. In short, it was (in a term I've adopted from some other website I've read) charismadolatry. They talked about God a lot, but two things I noticed (a little late & in hindsight, respectively) is that they desired people to worship them & desired earthly riches very strongly. They would dress up things that they did for other people in a package of false humility, all for attention (almost like a look at me kind of attitude). I've planted seeds, but now I see that some of it was for the wrong reasons and it has cost me and my family a lot of money. I've often had a problem w/ the little "g" gods theory and I've found enough evidence in the Bible to prove that it's false (you've probably found it as well) and I'll send you what I've found if you would like to read it or have time to read it. I've also been called into the ministry in the area of teaching & preaching. I think that God has allowed me to experience some of these things to show others what not to follow and He knows that I'll tell it if it's true."
--Larry Williams
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"I am intrigued and interested in your understanding of the "Word" without anything other than a formal secular education. I myself, after having received the Lord Jesus Christ some 32 years ago have become somewhat dissatisfied with modern day "religions." Having been saved in an independent fundamental Baptist church 32 years ago and later moving to a Four Square denomination and finally "currently" attending an Assembly of God denomination for some 5 years now, have once again fell prey to the ongoing trivial acceptance of scripture from those who would say they are inherently ordained to reveal to me what is right and what is wrong. I stumbled onto your web page by quite accident and am intrigued by the understandings and the parallels by which I also perceive some of your teachings. I have been interested in finding a fellowship where I could find people of like desires and to the revealing of true scripture."
--Charles E. Keller, Washington State
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"Great site. I am in the process on creating a short overview of The 'Faith Movement' and your summaries will make the work less time-consuming. Our site is www.indefenseoftruth.org."
--Bob Luthardt Sr., Baltimore, Maryland
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"Hello Victor, thank you for your website. I found it very informative and will share it with people who need to know about these false teachings. I have always been wary of this kind of teaching which always appeared to me to be unbiblical. Sadly, some folks are drawn to 'signs and wonders' which appeal to the carnal side of human nature whereas self-discipline requires more commitment and real dependence on God and reliance on Jesus' sacrifice for us. I also looked at your site relating to abortion. I abhor abortion. How can it be right even in a human sense to kill unborn babies. I used to think ok I would never have an abortion when God showed me it was wrong, but I didn't have the right to stop someone else doing it, not my business. Then God showed me (a number of years ago) Proverbs Chapter 24, Verse 11 & 12. After that I couldn't say it was none of my business and I set about telling anyone who would listen. Thanks again for your website."
--Lynn Metcalfe, United Kingdom
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"Hey Stupid, Only you are the wolves among the sheep. Get lost"
--Viju Vinod Kanna
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"Thank you for your research and honesty on this movement. I am sharing this link on my webblog."
--Dr. Dwight Easler, Pastor: Corinth Baptist Church, Gaffney, South Carolina
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"Thank you for the time and effort you have put into building this site and exposing some of the wolves. I have done this time and time again on different forums I am on and have been flamed mercilously. How can people be such fools. Be Blessed."
--Jim Wright
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"'Wow! I hope you stick my picture and name and teachings on your website, I know that I'd be in good company with all my fellow pentecostal servants of GOD."
--Joseph Krautheim

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"Good job brother on the Tithing teaching. Everyone in the Body of Christ needs to hear it. God Bless."
--George Price
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"Help please, My wife and I have been in the Word of Faith movement for over 25 years. I just recently figured out that we have been led seriously astray. I want us to extract ourselves from this movement (and the rest of my adult family). I don�t know how to get her out of it. She is a steadfast defender of it. She really believes that it is the truth. Logic is of no use with her. She gets extremely upset just to talk about it. I believe if I continue to try and convince her that we have been duped/mis-led, it will mean the end of my marriage. I deeply love my wife. Ending my marriage is not an option. I find it harder and harder to participate in errant religious teaching. Any advice?"
--Gary
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"In searching for the truth, I believe that God led me to this site. Nothing but the truth will do for me, because I am a lover of the truth. As the Holy Spirit leads me into all truths, I am so amazed that the spirit of discernment is not working in so many so-called christians today. Looking forward to reading your site. God Bless!"
--Carolyn Garrett, Bronx, New York
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"Dear Mr. Stephens, As a recently "renewed" Christian, I am deeply appreciative of your article. I have perused the religious channels over the last few months and have felt, in my heart and gut, that some of the preaching I was hearing didn't seem right. I am very uncomfortable when I hear supposed experts in the Bible talk about deserving to be rich, them and us, on the backs of people that trust them. And using scripture falsely to make their points is obvious to anyone who listens to them. Other than your article I have not seen much regarding this extremely important topic. Thank you for having the courage to come forward to try and expose the fraud. Some people must be so desperate to get out of debt and/or to become rich that they are ignoring the warning signs right in front of their eyes. I am thankful to God that he put it in my heart and mind not to fall prey to this.
Sincerely",
--Maria Ponte
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"Greetings, I was perusing your website and found it interesting and quite truthful. I can certainly appreciate what you are doing in regards to the status of the church today. Please keep up the good work and follow the Lord faithfully.
Blessings,"
--Bob Wise, Forgotton Word Ministries, Augusta, Illinois
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"I am so glad that I am not the only one seeing these false teachers among us!!! Please keep up the good work of warning to others!!"
--Roy Rodriguez, Friona, Texas
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